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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:27 pm Post subject: ITS OFFICIAL! DEMOCRACY IS DEAD! C.O.D. Fucked Supreme Court |
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Well folks. It's official. Democracy just died today. And who is the culprit... the last line of democracy's defence... THE SUPREME FUCKING COURT!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/21/supreme-court-rolls-back_n_431227.html
--- "By a 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court on Thursday rolled back restrictions on corporate spending on federal campaigns. The decision could unleash a torrent of corporate-funded attack ads in upcoming elections.
"Because speech is an essential mechanism of democracy -- it is the means to hold officials accountable to the people -- political speech must prevail against laws that would suppress it by design or inadvertence," wrote Justice Anthony Kennedy for the majority.
In his dissent, Justice John Paul Stevens accused the majority of judicial activism and attacked the use of corporate personhood in the case: "The conceit that corporations must be treated identically to natural persons in the political sphere is not only inaccurate but also inadequate to justify the Court's disposition of this case."
Republicans offered measured praise for the decision, but progressive good-government groups and Democrats responded angrily and vowed to fight back with legislation.
"With its ruling today, the Supreme Court has given a green light to a new stampede of special interest money in our politics," said President Obama in a statement. "It is a major victory for big oil, Wall Street banks, health insurance companies and the other powerful interests that marshal their power every day in Washington to drown out the voices of everyday Americans... That's why I am instructing my Administration to get to work immediately with Congress on this issue. We are going to talk with bipartisan Congressional leaders to develop a forceful response to this decision."
Democracy 21's Fred Wertheimer, for years a leading advocate of campaign finance reform, called the decision a "disaster for the American people and a dark day for the Supreme Court."
"The Supreme Court majority has acted recklessly to free up corporations to use their immense, aggregate corporate wealth to flood federal elections and buy government influence. The Fortune 100 companies alone had combined revenues of $13 trillion and profits of $605 billion during the last election cycle," Wertheimer wrote.
"Under today's decision, insurance companies, banks, drug companies, energy companies and the like will be free to each spend $5 million, $10 million or more of corporate funds to elect or defeat a federal candidate -- and thereby to buy influence over the candidate's positions on issues of economic importance to the companies."
We are moving to an age where we won't have the senator from Arkansas or the congressman from North Carolina, but the senator from Wal-Mart and the congressman from Bank of America," said Melanie Sloan, director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.
The court found that the Federal Elections Commission overstepped its constitutional authority when it barred a conservative group called Citizens United from running ads for a movie attacking Hillary Clinton during the 2008 election season. Corporations and labor unions are now free to advertise -- and tell people to vote for individual candidates -- as they please. Before today, corporations have been required to funnel money through Political Action Committees, with limits on what could be spent. The court upheld, however, disclosure requirements for corporations that spend $10,000 to produce election-season ads, and ads will still have to disclaim who paid for them.
"Today's decision by the Supreme Court in Citizens United v. FEC, serves as an affirmation of the constitutional rights provided to Americans under the first amendment," said Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele in a statement. But, while Steele said he was pleased with the decision, he cautioned that unlimited spending by corporations will hurt the party apparatus.
"Free speech strengthens our democracy. While the Court's recognition that organizations have the freedom to speak on public issues and have their views protected from censorship is fundamental, the Court has now left an imbalance that disadvantages national parties in their ability to support their candidates."
Brad Smith, chairman of the Center for Competitive Politics, a group that filed an amicus brief in the case and since 2005 has advocated against campaign spending limits, praised the decision during a conference call with reporters.
"Most of us think that's good thing," he said. "Speech is important and this will be good in allowing unions and corporations to speak."
Labor unions don't seem to share the feeling.
"Unlimited corporate spending in federal elections threatens to drown out the voices of the people who should really be at the center of the political process, i.e., voters and candidates," said Anna Burger, treasurer of the Service Employees International Union, in a statement. "Unleashing corporate spending will only serve to distort and ultimately delegitimize the electoral process."
"It is a sweeping opinion -- in one fell swoop the Supreme Court struck down seemingly all bans on expenditures," said Marc Elias, a lawyer for congressional Democrats, in an interview with HuffPost. "We've had a series of Supreme Court rulings in recent years where the court splits the difference on certain things. We didn't see that here. They only thing they upheld was the disclosure provisions."
Elias is reportedly working with Democratic leadership to craft a legislative response, though he declined to provide any specifics.
"We'll wait and see whether or not the Hill decides to take this up," he said. "The court opinion notes that it looks to Congress in making findings about the need for campaign finance regulation so we'll see what the Hill does."
Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, said Democrats would look at a legislative fix. "Giving corporate interests an outsized role in our process will only mean citizens get heard less. We must look at legislative ways to make sure the ledger is not tipped so far for corporate interests that citizens voices are drowned out."
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) added to the pile during a press conference: "The bottom line is this: the Supreme Court has just predetermined the winners of next November's elections. It won't be Republicans. It won't be Democrats. It will be corporate America."
One lawmaker has already launched a preemptive strike: Freshman Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) introduced a series of bills last week, such as the Business Should Mind Its Own Business Act and the Corporate Propaganda Sunshine Act.
Hans von Spakovsky, a legal fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, said he didn't think Congress would be able to undo the decision.
"I think Congress is going to have a very difficult time if they want to pass a law limiting individual expenditures," he said. "If you read the decision, the court is deciding on constitutional issues... It will be very difficult to design any kind of new federal statute that reimposes restrictions without it immediately being found unconstitutional again." -----
It really has happened and my worst fears are true. This country has been bought and paid for!!!! We the people are now completely FUCKED!!!! From now on the only voices that will be heard in politics are those Coporate America. For with NO CHECK THERE IS NO BALANCE!!!!!!
I am shaking mad as I write this. I really tried to have some faith in this once great nation but this tears it. And how did these swine butcher democracy ... WITH THE WHITE HOT BLADE OF FREE SPEECH!!!! Kind of ironic since it is no longer free. These people are scum. Plain and simple scum. It is the ultimate abuse of the free speech provision and I for one am sickened by this.
---"Today's decision by the Supreme Court in Citizens United v. FEC, serves as an affirmation of the constitutional rights provided to Americans under the first amendment," said Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele in a statement. But, while Steele said he was pleased with the decision, he cautioned that unlimited spending by corporations will hurt the party apparatus.
"Free speech strengthens our democracy. While the Court's recognition that organizations have the freedom to speak on public issues and have their views protected from censorship is fundamental, the Court has now left an imbalance that disadvantages national parties in their ability to support their candidates."
Brad Smith, chairman of the Center for Competitive Politics, a group that filed an amicus brief in the case and since 2005 has advocated against campaign spending limits, praised the decision during a conference call with reporters.
"Most of us think that's good thing," he said. "Speech is important and this will be good in allowing unions and corporations to speak."---
People like this should be drug out into the streets and beaten. How dare they!
And while I am at it, FUCK THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN GENERAL. They are all sitting there salivating at the thought that their precious PRIVATE SECTOR and CORPORATIONS are free to run amock through this once proud nation. And let me excersie MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH here and add this... George W. Bush has been THE SINGLE WORST THING TO HAPPEN TO OUR COUNTRY!!!! He allowed cronism and coporate hedgemons to bankrupt our nation, took vacations while terrorists plotted, and attacked a country which had nothing to do with terroism.
Oh yeah and more to the point and equally important as by doing so he made sure that his legacy of fucking daft stupidity and knee jerk reactions continue on well past his term ... HE APPOINTED 3 SUPREME COURT JUSTICES. In a 5 - 4 ruling 3 votes pretty much tips the scales from justice to corruption.
But I guess they are at least leaving one provision in the reform clause... disclosure of funding... so at least we know right.
So in closing, I remove my hat to Democracy and shed a tear.
R.I.P.
Demcracy
July 4 1776 - January 21, 2010 |
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givenenvy WUML Assistant RPM Director
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| Who the hell are you? Let's be friends. |
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Djilo91 WUML DJ
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:10 am Post subject: |
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I couldn't read all that in one sitting but I did read the g bush part and while he did suck as a president you can't actually believe that Iraq has nothing to do with terrorism... I'm not saying that's reason to attack them but seriously I can't think of a single country minus Canada and Switzerland who doesn't have some form of terrorists on their own home soil.
I understand I'm nit picking at one point you made in your rather extensive argument. But I love to debate and I hope you do to.
P.s. The rip democracy part with the dates is hilarious |
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Sean Brown Bike WUML Member

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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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some terrorists' country of residence is Iraq??!! LET'S DESTROY THE WHOLE FUCKING PLACE!!!! _________________ "And when our throats are filled with scars,
we'll scream it even louder." |
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